Jeff and I have a new episode of Two Middle Aged Pastors. We are sitting at Taco Bell discussing church programs.

We did a second podcast while at Taco Bell. We were in Lafayette because I was taking my MAT test at Purdue. Since we were there, we decided to talk with a few college students about “church.” I also took time to add some music to it. Not sure when it will be online, but I thought I’d give a short teaser ;)